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lwright's avatar

The person who threw the chair said "it's not that deep, it did not hit no-one".

By what mechanism did these people end up in the country, out of interest? Why haven't his parents learned how to speak English yet so we not only have to pay for the court case but their translator? How is this cast as a problem of our court system that it isn't set up for this stupidity?

There are so many problems in this country that weren't an issue until 5 minutes ago and then everyone is shocked when we aren't set up for them. Cut back on trading standards officers? Well didn't need them because there wasn't rampant money laundering. No real punishment of fly tipping? Well it's only now I can guarantee every walk I go on i'll see a mattress or computer chair randomly thrown on the pavement.

lwright's avatar

The level of cope here is ridiculous. 'Kids have always been reckless and sought social approval'. And yet we have a person here who is basically incapable of reasoning about counterfactuals.

Never saw a child from Crouch End e.g. fire fireworks at people, but apparently it's just kids.

Hitori's avatar
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Again, a story of failed parenting - if not outright neglect - and the public bearing the cost 🤦🏻‍♂️

Ollie Barrett's avatar

I commend the reporting but why weren’t you able to report on the trial of the boy who actually threw the chair?

And one thought on the point about exclusionary and polarising regeneration. I understand when people who have lived in an area for a long time, who may have multi-generational ties there, feel a sense of injustice when they’re priced out of the area they grew up, but clearly this boy in question is the child of migrants (given the need for a translator at court). His parents may be upstanding and contributing members of their local communities, but I think both parents of second-generation immigrants and the government itself need to do a better job of explaining that the UK is not a horrendous country full of injustice. No, it isn’t perfect, and there are still many problems, but people come here for a reason because, comparatively, it’s a welcoming, generous and largely fair country. We need to instil that in children from a young age - and not just in the children of migrants, because the more we tell them the country is a systemically racist or corrupt place, the less reason they’ll have to not throw chairs down several flights of a shopping mall. I appreciate this is an over-simplification of a very complex issue, but I think it’s relevant.

Rant over.

lwright's avatar

These people live 20 minutes from two of the largest job markets in the country but only command Blackburn wages. This is treated as exogenous rather than endogenous.

lwright's avatar

You literally have people travelling in from Essex and Hertfordshire to do jobs they could easily do. You don't need to regenerate an area to learn a trade. The courses are free.

Heather's avatar

Time to start charging parents with the offence of shit parenting in cases where they have completely abdicated all responsibility for their feral children.